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Table of Contents

1. Registration Policies

2. Hip Dysplasia and Hip Dysplasia Control Registries

3. Gender Issues: Male versus Female?

4. Questions Concerning Deposits on Puppies.

4. Puppy Prices.


1. Registration Policies

We frequently receive questions concerning registration. Much information and misinformation concerning various forms of registration are to be found on the Internet. The two most common questions we receive concern registries, and forms of registration. I'll attempt to answer the most common questions on those two subjects here.


2. Hip Dysplasia and Hip Dysplasia Control Registries.

Here are a few questions we get concerning hip dysplasia:

We do not get too many questions, actually, regarding hip dysplasia in our dogs because we print the OFA information for each dog on their individual web pages, our visitors are not left to wonder about the hip status of our breeding dogs, which organization we prefer, or if our dogs are 'a' stamped, Penn-Hipped, OFA "prelimed," or OFA Certified.

However, we do get lots and lots of questions concerning hip dysplasia, its causes and methods of prevention.

For those who are don't know what hip dysplasia is or who need more information on the particulars of this disease please first visit the following link before reading my answers.

http://www.offa.org/hipinfo.html

First of all, no matter what some breeders may say otherwise, hip dysplasia is at it's root a disease of genetics: the environment a dog is raised in does seem to play a small role in the development of the disease, but the basic cause is genetic. This means a dog who inherits the genes for hip dysplasia is never going to have normal hip joint conformation no matter what you feed it , how thin you keep it, or how you manage its life, period. Conversely a dog who has the genes for normal hip structure is going to be a sound dog and develop normal hips, assuming the dog has adequate nutrition, is kept in normal weight, and lives a normal lifestyle. ( If you would like to learn more about raising healthy dogs read our "raising healthy dogs" FAQs segment.)

We have found that the breeders who have the greatest problem with hip dysplasia are often those who blame the environment (and thus the owners) to the greatest degree, while those breeders with a sound breeding program that produces less then the breed average of affected dogs are often the most willing to admit this disease is genetic in origin.

Just because this disease is genetic in origin does not mean any breeder can predict if any particular puppy is going to inherit this disease; the very best any breeder can do to reduce the incidence of this disease is to use sound breeding practices based in an understanding of this disease and how it is inherited as they plan their breeding program. Breeders with a desire to produce sound, healthy puppies can find all the information they need to formulate a breeding plan on the website of the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (www.offa.org).

The OFA, along with several other registries in Europe, screens dogs for this disease (and others) to assist breeders in reducing the occurrence of disease in purebred dogs. Unlike most registries in Europe the OFA is not affiliated with or run in any way by the breed clubs or breeders themselves, but is instead a stand alone, not-for-profit organization that exists purely to assist breeders in reducing genetic diseases in dogs.

Some of the most frequent questions we get in this regard concern the difference between the OFA's program and the program of the SV of Germany (the 'a' stamp).

No one with any understanding of our breeds history could ever state that the German's have not done an excellent job of reducing the incidence of hip dysplasia in GSDs and that the rate of affection in modern dogs is at an all time low (about 19%) in Germany, despite the breed's history of having up to 90 percent of GSDs affected in the early days of x-ray evaluation. This is due to the unwavering commitment of the SV in encouraging the use of dogs not affected with the disease and the discouragement of the use of dogs affected with the disease in breeding programs (although dogs mildly affected can be bred in Germany). However, in the interest of maintaining genetic diversity in the early years, this program did allow the breeding of dogs who have hip dysplasia. Interestingly, to make up for shortcomings in the 'a' stamp system the SV has in recent years developed additional safe-guards to prevent dogs with hip dysplasia who obtain 'a' stamps from wreaking too much havoc within the breed. The first of these was a requirement that popular stud dogs (who have the greatest influence on the breed) be re-evaluated by x-ray after 30 breedings (one breeding season for a popular stud); second, a complex program giving dogs a numerical value for hip dysplasia risk was set up for breeders. This excellent program, which is too complex to go into here, is an excellent tool for breeders in Germany, but sadly is of limited use for breeders in the USA.

In our opinion the OFA, which is not affiliated with any breed club and has a more rigorous screening protocol, renders more accurate results for American breeders. Since the OFA is not affiliated with any breed club there was never any consideration of certifying dogs who have hip dysplasia and thusly only dogs with normal hips can receive OFA Certification.

We have not included Pen-Hip evaluations on this discussion as we do not believe this evaluation is reliable enough for breeding purposes and it is not recognized by any FCI registry as a suitable test for this disease. Nor have we included registries from other countries; you can find additional information on these on the OFA website.

Here are Austerlitz Shepherds (AGSD) we follow the OFA's recommendations for breeders. We breed only from OFA Certified breeding stock, never OFA Preliminary Opinions, and only rarely rely on 'a' stamps. Further, we take into account, as the OFA recommends, sibling studies; and as our dogs are all of German descent, the 'a' stamp ratings, hip numbers, and siblings studies of our dog's German ancestors are subsequently available. We feel this commitment to doing everything we can to produce dogs with healthy orthopedics is the reason why our program consistently produces a much higher rate of normal hips (99%) then the current average for our breed (82%).

A short comparison of OFA vs. the 'a' stamp follows. Keep in mind the 'a' stamp program is well proven and works very well for Germans but we believe it's use for American breeders is very limited and that the OFA presents the best choice for breeders in America.

Comparison of Hip Rating Systems

Question German 'a' stamp OFA Preliminary Opinion OFA Certification
Age requirement? Minimum of 12 months for breeding purposes. Minimum of 3 months, no certification is possible. Minimum of 24 months for certification.
Number of Vets (DVM) who render opinion? One DVM. One DVM, a Board-Certified Radiologist. Three DVMs, all Board- Certified Radiologists (blind opinions).
Ratings offered for dogs with normal hip joints and no disease present?
  • 'a' normal (aka 'a' 1).
  • Preliminary Fair.
  • Preliminary Good.
  • Preliminary Excellent.
Certification possible, number issued.
  • Certified Fair.
  • Certified Good.
  • Certified Excellent.
Ratings offered for dogs with borderline hip structure (almost or nearly normal, but no signs of disease at the time of x-ray)?
  • 'a' fast normal ('a' 2).
  • Preliminary Borderline.
Certification not possible, dogs are rated borderline.
Ratings for dogs with hip dysplasia?
  • 'a' noch zeugelosen (aka 'a' 3) ( still acceptable for breeding).
  • mild dysplasia (not suitable for breeding).
  • moderate dysplasia (not suitable for breeding).
  • severe hip dysplasia (not suitable for breeding).
  • Preliminary Mild
  • Preliminary Moderate
  • Preliminary Severe
Certification not possible.
  • Mild
  • Moderate
  • Severe
Notes and Caveats. Due to the young age at certification and the increased chance of error when using one DVM for evaluation, some dogs with the 'a' stamp may have better or worse hips than their evaluation states. OFA states Preliminary Opinions are NOT to be used as an evaluation of breed worthiness in regards to hip dysplasia. These evaluations are offered only for informational purposes.
In use at AGSD? Occasionally, and for ancestor studies. No. Yes for all breeding dogs.

Please note all this information reflects the opinion of Austerlitz Shepherds and is not intended for any purpose other then general information.


3. Gender Issues: Male vs. Female?

Here are some questions we get concerning choosing a male or female puppy:

This is only a very small sampling of questions we receive concerning the differences between the sexes in GSDs. There are many myths regarding the matter of choosing the "correct" gender of your dog. In attempting to answer these questions and address the myths, I must first clarify my answer with the following information:

When we speak to the differences between the males and females we must always keep these to factors in mind because both play a part in how a dog will behave.

Obviously the most important factor in adult behavior in a dog is environment. We have often found that very similar litter-mates grow into very different adult dogs because they have grown up in two very different environments. How a dog is raised, trained, and the environment he lives in plays a huge role in his behavior as an adult dog.

However, it is undeniable that genetics also plays a role in adult behavior, and many of a dogs natural behavioral tendency's are inherited.

The overlying lesson would be that, no matter which gender you choose, you should select a puppy from parents whose behavior is similar to the type of dog you are looking for. For example, if your household is full of teenagers who often have teenage friends over, you may wish for a gregarious dog who is open and friendly with those he does not know well (i.e. your kid's friends). If you choose a puppy from parents who are naturally suspicious with strangers, no matter if you choose a female or male, you are likely to have problems. On the other hand, if your spouse often travels, and you would prefer a dog who is a natural protector (i.e. aloof and naturally suspicious) you might be unhappy with an outgoing, I love everyone, type of dog (even if you choose a male).

Once you have determined what your basic needs are and you have found a puppy with parents who are very close to your "ideal" GSD in natural behavior you can then take responsibility for making sure your puppy grows into the dog of your dreams by ensuring he, or she, is raised and trained in such a way that you are guaranteed of success. Never assume a puppy raised without such a plan will grow up to be a dog you would like to own; make it happen through careful consideration, preparation, and training.

Now to the myths...


4. Questions Concerning Deposits on Puppies

We get so many questions about deposits that I have decided to write this to answer the most common ones. If you have a different question please let me know.

First, AGSD reserves the right of first selection in every litter, as well as the right to select puppies for each client. We have found that a small number of guidelines help us select puppies for each family with a minimum of competition among our clients.

A deposit is encouraged, but not required, when purchasing a puppy from AGSD. Deposits are always $400, regardless of litter. A deposit is required if you wish to hold a puppy from a particular litter, but a deposit is not a guarantee that you will get a puppy from that litter (for further explanation, please see below).

A deposit for a puppy may be placed as soon as the female's pregnancy is confirmed. Pregnancies are confirmed via ultrasound about four weeks after breeding. No deposits on a litter will be accepted until a pregnancy is confirmed! We can usually get a fairly accurate puppy count during the ultrasound, and this count indicates the number of deposits we will accept for that litter.

Once pregnancy is confirmed and a puppy count obtained, we open the litter to deposits. An announcement is sent to everyone on our "To Contact" list stating that deposits on a litter are being accepted (to be placed on our "To Contact" list please e-mail Susanne). After this notice has been sent the website is updated as well. Puppies are selected for each owner/family in the order deposits are received. There is never any additional cost for first puppy selected, nor is there any difference in quality among our puppies: they are all of high quality. Once we have received deposits equal to the number of confirmed of embryos in the litter, we close that litter to deposits.

Occasionally the number of puppies whelped is different from the number of embryos seen on ultrasound. If the number of puppies whelped is less than the number of embryos seen on ultrasound, we will refund deposits in either the reverse order of which they were received (last ones first) or the most preferences (i.e. gender, sex, coat, color) first. Conversely, if the number of puppies is greater then expected we will contact those on our "To Contact" list first and offer them the chance to send a deposit before we open the litter on the website.

Deposits can be made by personal check, teller check, or cash.

Deposits are non-refundable unless the desired puppy is not present in the litter (e.g. no males, no solid black, etc), in which case the client may choose a puppy of a different gender/color/etc or have their deposit refunded. Deposits are never "held over" for another litter unless the client prefers this option. Clients whose deposits are held over are automatically placed first in puppy selection for the next litter.

Yes, you can place a deposit on a puppy of a specific gender, color, coat, etc. If there is no puppy that matches the preferences in the litter your deposit is refunded or held over: your choice.

However, because the long coat trait is not visible in puppies until a puppy is older, this presents us with a problem. As most puppies are selected for their families before the age when this trait starts to show, and since we want to make our selections in a timely fashion, clients who have no coat preference are always given priority over those who do. Clients with the fewest number of preferences always give us the greatest flexibility in helping them find a puppy that meets their needs, in regards to temperament and personality first and cosmetic issues second. That said, many of our clients have very strong ideas about what they are looking for and we do believe that every owner should have the dog they dream of. So, if you want a black sable, stock coat male, feel free to place a deposit for one (assuming that the color and coat is possible in the litter you are considering; we place color and coat possibilities on each litter page) and we will do our very best to help you find the dog you are dreaming of.

It is always our goal to find our puppies the very best, loving, permanent homes, and we work very hard to attract these hard to find, wonderful, people to our program. We have found that it is often the case, since we have been breeding for a long time and our reputation is well known, that all the puppies in a litter are spoken for before they are born. We strive to have a family or owner approved for each puppy before it is born, and we often meet this goal. However, I do understand that for some people the idea of placing a deposit on an unborn puppy is new, and because so many breeders have trouble finding homes for their puppies it is not uncommon to see breeders with entire litters of puppies to view with all the puppies available, but this is rarely the case with our program. It does sometimes occur that we have puppies "on the ground" that are not reserved; this is most often the case if we have a much larger then expect litter. If you would prefer to meet and greet the puppies before placing a deposit this is not a problem; we will gladly send you a note when the puppies reach the age of visitation, and let you know what is available at that time. We also post such things on the website.


5. Puppy Prices

Questions

Answers

Before I can answer questions about pricing, let me first discuss some common misconceptions concerning puppies.

  1. "Show/breeding" quality puppies versus "pet"quality puppies. There is no such thing as a "show" or "breeding" quality puppy. Just like the fabled Loch Ness Monster, the show/breeding quality puppy simply does not exist, yet the the search for it continues. The reason for this is that many breed and show disqualifying faults are not present in puppies. Faults such as undescended testicles, incorrect dentition, weak ears, coat, not to mention breed specific issues like OFA certification (which can only be done over 24 months of age) and CERF certification (over 12 months of age). Breeders who charge more money for "pick" or show/breeding quality puppies are simply taking advantage of the ignorance of their clients.
  2. A show home is better than a pet home. Really, really, not true. What dog wants to live in a kennel and only be cared for as long as it serves as a show/breeding/competition dog? Not any dog I know.
  3. There are high quality puppies and low quality puppies within the same litter. This is a common misconception among puppy buyers, and even among some ignorant breeders. In reality, every puppy within a litter should be of similar quality: this is the breeders job, to produce a consistent quality among dogs in each litter. While it is true that some minor differences may occur, such as better upper arm angle, better top line, etc., these differences should be minor and generally not apparent to the average owner. The very reason people choose purebred dogs and select a particular breeder should be because of the predictable nature of both. One expects a GSD to look and act a certain way. One also expects a talented breeder to produce dogs that are similar to each other in appearance, temperament, and personality. If a breeder is finding a wide variety in the quality of the puppies in their breeding program, they are not doing a very good job and need to evaluate their breeding stock, breeding methods and rational. As a puppy buyer, be cautious of any breeder whose litters have both high-priced puppies and low-priced puppies.

Here at AGSD we believe that every dog deserves and desires to be a companion dog. While many of our owners do compete with their dogs in a variety of events, from agility to schutzhund, if they obtained their puppy from us, be assured that these dogs are first of all beloved companion dogs and not sports equipment. We never place dogs in situations where they will be living in a kennel, nor where they are only valued for their breeding potential or competition potential. We are looking for loving, permanent, indoor, family homes for our dogs.

Puppy Prices

We have three price points for litters, and these prices are based completely on how many awards, titles, and accomplishments the parents have earned, and not in any way on the quality of the parents. Unfortunately, we have only so much time to train and show our dogs, and some dogs, despite having much potential, do not get as many chances to compete as some other dogs. Be assured that all our dogs are of similar quality and that there will be no difference in the quality among these litters.

Please note all puppies carry the same guarantee (please see our guarantee page), and all puppies are placed with AKC Limited Registration (please see our registration FAQ for more info on this). All breeding dogs carry the same health clearances (please see our litter planning protocol for more information).

Deposits are always $400, please see our deposit FAQ for information on placing a deposit.



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